New York BLM leader Hawk Newsome defends looters while comparing the US to ‘terrorists’ during heated exchange with Fox News anchor Martha MacCallum – after Rudy Giuliani urged Trump to declare group a ‘domestic terrorist organization’
The leader of the Black Lives Matter movement in New York has compared the US government to ‘terrorists’, as he defended protesters and looters during the George Floyd protests across the country.
Hawk Newsome, chairman of BLM’s Greater New York chapter, made the comments on Tuesday night during a heated exchange on The Story with Martha MacCallum on Fox News.
Newsome, 43, responded to Rudy Giuliani’s recent calls for President Trump to declare BLM a ‘domestic terror organization’, citing looting and vandalism by demonstrators.
Giuliani on Monday said BLM activists were ‘basically engaged in stealing’, calling the movement an ‘illegal organization’ whose intent is’ to overthrow our government.’
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During a heated exchange on Tuesday night, BLM chairman Hawk Newsome (pictured) defended the organization while comparing the US government of being terrorists
Newsome (pictured with Nick Cannon) said BLM activists have been fighting for ‘human rights’ and equality and question why there hasn’t been a harder stance on white supremacists
During the interview, Newsome fired back at the former mayor of New York City, whom he said has accomplished nothing since his tenure, and accused him of mischaracterizing demonstrators that are fighting for human rights.
‘He’s talking about mothers and fathers who are out there protesting,’ Newsome said.
‘He’s talking about black people and white people who are out there fighting for the right of every human being – for equity, for human rights – and he’s calling us terrorists?’
He also questioned why Giuliani has not taken a hard stance on white supremacists and the KKK, which he said ‘is responsible for bloodshed over hundreds of years.’
MacCallum interjected to say Giuliani was likely referring to the looters and rioters that destroyed local businesses and properties during the demonstrations.
Newsome then responded suggesting the American government were the true terrorists for ‘pillaging’ foreign countries.
‘OK, so when America goes and steals diamonds and oils, who’s calling us terrorists?’ Newsome told MacCallum.
His comments were in response to Rudy Giuliani’s calls for Trump to declare BLM a ‘domestic terrorist organization’
Giuliani said BLM protesters had engaged in stealing and are intent on ‘overthrowing’ the government
‘When the American government goes and pillages different countries, who’s calling us terrorists?’
MacCallum then asked Newsome if he agreed with fellow BLM leader Ariel Atkins in Chicago, who during a recent interview defended looters and said looting was a form of reparations.
Atkins had said she ‘didn’t care’ if people targeted high-end stores like Gucci or Macy’s, if it meant they had something to eat.
Newsome did not answer yes or no but replied by saying criticizing looters was a byproduct of white supremacy.
‘The problem with oppression and white supremacy is, white supremacy will have you criticizing the oppressed and worshiping the oppressors,’ he said.
‘Now, if you want to talk to me about reparations, nothing falls short of a solution other than people cutting a check. If you want to do something about reparations, cut the check.’
Sephora located at 119 Fifth Avenue in the Flatiron District was left ransacked after it was looted and vandalized during the George Floyd protest in New York City on June 2
Newsome went on to say that reparations should not come out of the pockets of everyday Americans, but rather the banks and other institutions who benefited from slavery.
MacCallum then asked Newsome if he condoned people looting high-end stores and corporations – but was again given an indirect response.
‘Before I answer that, I want to ask you this: Do you think it’s okay that our government kills people in their homes like Breonna Taylor?’ he replied.
‘No I don’t think that’s okay. Of course, I don’t think that’s okay,’ MacCallum said.
In an interview with DailyMailTV in June, Newsome revealed the BLM group was ‘mobilizing’ its base and aims to develop a highly-trained ‘military’ arm to challenge police brutality head on.
BLM demonstrations took over NYC following the death of George Floyd in May, with some protests escalating into riots with protesters looting businesses
Newsome, 43, told DailyMailTV in June, he believes his group can lead the ‘war on police’
He said the chapter planned to release a blueprint for change that involves Black Panther style armed ‘patrols’ monitoring the behavior of officers on the streets.
‘We want liberation. We want the power to determine our own destiny. We want freedom from an oppressive government, and we want the immediate end of government sanctioned murder by the police,’ he said.
‘And we prepare to stop these government sanctioned murders by any means necessary.’
Black Lives Matter has had tens of thousands of activists protesting the death of George Floyd in dozens of cities around America and across the world since his killing in May.
BLM’s Greater New York chapter has since emerged at the forefront of the movement as black rights become a topic for debate.
Newsome said he believes his group can lead the ‘war on police’.